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Re: Hey nobs
It was Dr G, in the conservatory with the syringe
NotBert- Posts : 5739
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Re: Hey nobs
Please MJ.....You are far too intelligent to fall for the bollocks being shoved down your throat by the McCunts PR machine, surely?
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No I'm not I just wanted your opinion on what's going on
missyj- Posts : 1330
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The British Establishment....i.e. The government, the media and the police, are all involved in the cover up.
All this current shit is to divert attention from the libel trial against Goncalo Amaral that's going on in Portugal right now, the one that the McCunts are losing badly.
Sadly, that isn't reported in the UK press.
All this current shit is to divert attention from the libel trial against Goncalo Amaral that's going on in Portugal right now, the one that the McCunts are losing badly.
Sadly, that isn't reported in the UK press.
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That is a question that thousands want to know the answer to.
I can't discuss the case with you MJ as you haven't read the official police files....I'm not being holier than thou by the way, it's just hard to converse on the subject with those who only know what the corrupt UK media tells them about the case.
Go check the Twitter #mcann hashtag from tonight:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mccann&src=typd
Then go here perhaps.
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/
I can't discuss the case with you MJ as you haven't read the official police files....I'm not being holier than thou by the way, it's just hard to converse on the subject with those who only know what the corrupt UK media tells them about the case.
Go check the Twitter #mcann hashtag from tonight:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mccann&src=typd
Then go here perhaps.
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/
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If you are on facebook, try this group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HiDeHoCONTROVERSYofMadeleineMcCann/
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From the official case files, Here is the summing up by the Portuguese police:
From our detailed study and after forensic evidence we conclude that:
A) The minor Madeleine McCann died in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort, on the night of May 3rd of 2007;
B) It was performed a simulation of kidnapping;
C) In order to avoid the death [alarm] of the minor before 22H00, it was created a situation of the children's surveillance by the McCann while the children slept;
D) Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the occultation of the cadaver of their child Madeleine McCann;
E) At this moment, there seems that there aren't strong indicia that the death of the minor didn't happen due to a tragic accident;
F) From what was obtained until now, everything points out that the McCann, as self-defence, didn't want to deliver immediately and voluntarily the cadaver, existing a strong possibility that the same was transported from the initial place of deposition. This situation is susceptible to raise questions about the circumstances under which the death of the minor occurred.
So we suggest that the files be sent to the EX.mo Sr. Procurador Geral da R'ublica [General Attorney], in order to:
G) Carry out a new interrogation of the Arguidos Kate and Gerry McCann;
IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT GORDON BROWN HAD HEAD DETECTIVE GONCALO AMARAL REMOVED FROM THE CASE AND THE MCCUNTS BOLTED THE COUNTRY.
From our detailed study and after forensic evidence we conclude that:
A) The minor Madeleine McCann died in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort, on the night of May 3rd of 2007;
B) It was performed a simulation of kidnapping;
C) In order to avoid the death [alarm] of the minor before 22H00, it was created a situation of the children's surveillance by the McCann while the children slept;
D) Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are involved in the occultation of the cadaver of their child Madeleine McCann;
E) At this moment, there seems that there aren't strong indicia that the death of the minor didn't happen due to a tragic accident;
F) From what was obtained until now, everything points out that the McCann, as self-defence, didn't want to deliver immediately and voluntarily the cadaver, existing a strong possibility that the same was transported from the initial place of deposition. This situation is susceptible to raise questions about the circumstances under which the death of the minor occurred.
So we suggest that the files be sent to the EX.mo Sr. Procurador Geral da R'ublica [General Attorney], in order to:
G) Carry out a new interrogation of the Arguidos Kate and Gerry McCann;
IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT GORDON BROWN HAD HEAD DETECTIVE GONCALO AMARAL REMOVED FROM THE CASE AND THE MCCUNTS BOLTED THE COUNTRY.
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Watch the 'never wrong in over 200 cases' blood and cadaver dogs alerting to all things McCunt here:
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Kate McCunt refused to answer these 48 questions put to her by the Portuguese Police...(as you do when your child has been abducted of course!!)
1 On 3 May 2007 at around 2200, when you entered the apartment what did you see and do, where did you look, and what did you touch?
2 Did you look inside the wardrobe in the bedroom?
3 (Shown two photographs of the wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?
4 Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (a photograph of which was shown to her), been disturbed? Had someone passed behind this sofa?
5 How much time did you spend searching in the apartment after realising that your daughter Madeleine had disappeared?
6 Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Assuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home to go to the Tapas to raise the alarm, not least because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment?
8 Why did you not ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why did you not ask them later?
9 When you raised the alarm in the Tapas what specific words were used?
10 What happened after raising the alarm at the Tapas?
11 Did you have a mobile phone with you at that moment?
12 Why did you go to warn your friends instead of shouting from the balcony?
13 Who contacted the authorities?
14 Who took part in the searches?
15 Did someone outside the group learn, in the moments that followed, of Madeleine's disappearance?
16 Did any neighbour offer you help after the alarm was raised about the disappearance?
17 What did the expression "we let her down" mean?
18 Did Jane tell you that she had seen a man carrying a child that night?
19 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?
20 During the searches after police arrived, in which places were Madeleine searched for, and in what way?
21 Why did the twins not wake up during the search or when they went upstairs?
22 Whom did you telephone after the discovery?
23 Did you call Sky News?
24 Did you know of any danger of calling the media alerting them of the abduction, since this could influence the abductor?
25 Did you request the presence of a priest?
26 In what way was the face of Madeleine, in photographs or by other means, released?
27 Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Madeleine's bed in your room without moving?
28 What was your behaviour like during that night?
29 Did you manage to sleep?
30 Before the trip to Portugal did you make a comment about a bad feeling or premonition about it?
31 What was Madeleine's behaviour like?
32 Did Madeleine suffer from any infirmity or take medication?
33 What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and fellow pupils?
34 Regarding your professional life, in how many hospitals and in which ones did you work?
35 What was your speciality as a doctor?
36 Do you work shifts in emergency wards or other departments?
37 Do you work in the daytime?
38 Why did you stop working at a certain point?
39 Is it true or not that the twins have difficulty falling asleep, that they are restless and that this upsets you?
40 Is it true or not that at certain times you felt desperate at your children's attitude and that this upsets you a lot?
41 Is it true or not that in England you went so far as thinking about handing over Madeleine to a relative to look after?
42 At home (in England) did you give medication to your children and what kind of medication?
43 (Various films had been shown to her of the inspection by forensic dogs, where one can see their signalling indications of the scent of a human corpse and traces of human blood as well as the comments by the expert overseeing the exercise.) Having seen the film and after the scent of a corpse was signalled in her bedroom near the wardrobe, and behind the sofa by the window in the sitting room, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
44 She was asked about the sniffer dog that signalled human blood behind the above-mentioned sofa. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
45 She was asked about the scent of corpse which was signalled in the vehicle she hired about a month after the disappearance, with number plate 59-DA-27. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
46 When the presence of human blood was signalled in the boot of the same vehicle Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
47 Confronted with the result of the sample of Madeleine's DNA, whose analysis was carried out by a British laboratory, found behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle, as previously described, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
48 Did you have any responsibility or involvement in the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine?
49 Are you aware that the fact of your not answering the questions put to you jeopardise the investigation that was aimed at finding out what happened to your daughter, she answered: "Yes, if the investigation thinks that."
50 Do you have anything to add? She said: "No."
51 Her lawyer was asked to comment. He said he had nothing to state or request.
1 On 3 May 2007 at around 2200, when you entered the apartment what did you see and do, where did you look, and what did you touch?
2 Did you look inside the wardrobe in the bedroom?
3 (Shown two photographs of the wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?
4 Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (a photograph of which was shown to her), been disturbed? Had someone passed behind this sofa?
5 How much time did you spend searching in the apartment after realising that your daughter Madeleine had disappeared?
6 Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Assuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home to go to the Tapas to raise the alarm, not least because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment?
8 Why did you not ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why did you not ask them later?
9 When you raised the alarm in the Tapas what specific words were used?
10 What happened after raising the alarm at the Tapas?
11 Did you have a mobile phone with you at that moment?
12 Why did you go to warn your friends instead of shouting from the balcony?
13 Who contacted the authorities?
14 Who took part in the searches?
15 Did someone outside the group learn, in the moments that followed, of Madeleine's disappearance?
16 Did any neighbour offer you help after the alarm was raised about the disappearance?
17 What did the expression "we let her down" mean?
18 Did Jane tell you that she had seen a man carrying a child that night?
19 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?
20 During the searches after police arrived, in which places were Madeleine searched for, and in what way?
21 Why did the twins not wake up during the search or when they went upstairs?
22 Whom did you telephone after the discovery?
23 Did you call Sky News?
24 Did you know of any danger of calling the media alerting them of the abduction, since this could influence the abductor?
25 Did you request the presence of a priest?
26 In what way was the face of Madeleine, in photographs or by other means, released?
27 Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Madeleine's bed in your room without moving?
28 What was your behaviour like during that night?
29 Did you manage to sleep?
30 Before the trip to Portugal did you make a comment about a bad feeling or premonition about it?
31 What was Madeleine's behaviour like?
32 Did Madeleine suffer from any infirmity or take medication?
33 What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and fellow pupils?
34 Regarding your professional life, in how many hospitals and in which ones did you work?
35 What was your speciality as a doctor?
36 Do you work shifts in emergency wards or other departments?
37 Do you work in the daytime?
38 Why did you stop working at a certain point?
39 Is it true or not that the twins have difficulty falling asleep, that they are restless and that this upsets you?
40 Is it true or not that at certain times you felt desperate at your children's attitude and that this upsets you a lot?
41 Is it true or not that in England you went so far as thinking about handing over Madeleine to a relative to look after?
42 At home (in England) did you give medication to your children and what kind of medication?
43 (Various films had been shown to her of the inspection by forensic dogs, where one can see their signalling indications of the scent of a human corpse and traces of human blood as well as the comments by the expert overseeing the exercise.) Having seen the film and after the scent of a corpse was signalled in her bedroom near the wardrobe, and behind the sofa by the window in the sitting room, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
44 She was asked about the sniffer dog that signalled human blood behind the above-mentioned sofa. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
45 She was asked about the scent of corpse which was signalled in the vehicle she hired about a month after the disappearance, with number plate 59-DA-27. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
46 When the presence of human blood was signalled in the boot of the same vehicle Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
47 Confronted with the result of the sample of Madeleine's DNA, whose analysis was carried out by a British laboratory, found behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle, as previously described, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
48 Did you have any responsibility or involvement in the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine?
49 Are you aware that the fact of your not answering the questions put to you jeopardise the investigation that was aimed at finding out what happened to your daughter, she answered: "Yes, if the investigation thinks that."
50 Do you have anything to add? She said: "No."
51 Her lawyer was asked to comment. He said he had nothing to state or request.
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Cheers nobby I shall take a look at that this evening , learnt a new word there occultation
missyj- Posts : 1330
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It's a scratchy (but accurate) translation of the original Portuguese, MJ. You can see the idiom in it.
NotBert- Posts : 5739
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Idiom , you know that's another one lol ,meaning please
missyj- Posts : 1330
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Idiom is the expression of/in language. I read that translation, for example, and could see immediately what it said originally in Portuguese. There are single words in some languages that don't exist in ours and it shows when you translate. "Occultation" is one of them. It's more a concept that the Portuguese can compact into one noun but we can't - the closest we'd get is "subterfuge" but that doesn't do it justice
NotBert- Posts : 5739
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thanks bert , feel like I'm back in English class never too old to learnNotBert wrote:Idiom is the expression of/in language. I read that translation, for example, and could see immediately what it said originally in Portuguese. There are single words in some languages that don't exist in ours and it shows when you translate. "Occultation" is one of them. It's more a concept that the Portuguese can compact into one noun but we can't - the closest we'd get is "subterfuge" but that doesn't do it justice
missyj- Posts : 1330
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You supply the uniform, I'll do the teaching (and so on)
NotBert- Posts : 5739
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I can still fit in my school uniformNotBert wrote:You supply the uniform, I'll do the teaching (and so on)
missyj- Posts : 1330
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Picture or you're lying.missyj wrote:I can still fit in my school uniformNotBert wrote:You supply the uniform, I'll do the teaching (and so on)
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Love the obvious indication that Jonesy still dusts off the schoolie kit for the Ninja now and again...
NotBert- Posts : 5739
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Jonesy are you trying to squeeze into your gym slip ?
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