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Post  NotBert Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:59 am

FIRST
Labour leader Ed Miliband is to admit his party's leadership lost touch both with its own members and the public.

TO WHOM?
In his speech to party activists and trade unionists, Mr Miliband is expected to unveil a series of proposals.

SECOND
Miliband also tells the public sector unions that it would be a mistake for them to strike next week as planned.

THIRD
Tessa "honest about husbands" Jowell states they "lost the last election very badly" and "simply didn't hear the strength of public opinion - particularly on immigration and the visceral anger against those who cheat the benefit system".

In order
FIRST - "Public opinion and belief is important"
TO WHOM? - "I'm telling you this because I'm standing up in front of you"
SECOND - "Public opinion and belief isn't important. I know better"
THIRD - "If we had the election again, we'd go after coons and spastics like this lot have. We're happy to cave to discrimination but the unions can fuck off, for those who remember, it was me who said "the time for talking is over" and then I was told to get fucking talking.

Tessa Jowell and her Teflon fucking "husband/ex-husband/separated from/no, husband again" who avoided an Italian jail on a technicality. They lost the election because of cunts like Smith, Blears, Harman et al being out of touch by repeatedly breaking the law and treating the public purse as a bank for porn, rent for your sister's house and treating constituencies as a route to give your lost-in-a-union-ballot-for-secretary husband a safe fucking seat in Birmingham.

Until they acknowledge they are thieves and chop away the cancerous vermin within the party, I hope they fucking burn
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Post  Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:06 pm

Hear hear!

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Post  NotBert Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:16 pm

It's amazing, Tone. This dickhead could have sat there and said fuck all. Now he's telling everyone Labour needs to get back to its roots but the number of major unions who next week are stating effectively "if you aren't with us, you're against us - there are no shades in this" are being told that this dickhead is against them.

Gun out, foot shot.
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Post  morning_glory Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:39 pm

while Labour acts like the Cons -Willetts, Hamilton, Aitken and who can forget Dame Shirley Porter ( I know this is old news ,but some of us have long memories) plus new scandals ,Labour is fucked.


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Post  Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:47 pm

We're all fucked.
Politics is an illusion.
Every last one of the cunts, irrespective of their 'party' is there purely to represent the interests of the big corporations that are fucking up everybody's lives.
Revolution needed....fast.

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Post  NotBert Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:03 pm

Today - Michael Gove

If ever there was a man whose arse should be permanently raw through the application of shoe leather, it is this fucking bell.

"Strikes could damage teachers' reputation"

(i) You can't eat "reputation" when you retire
(ii) What are you going to do, send the kids somewhere else to be taught? By whom? Teachers. Shit, there's an argument that fucks itself up quite sharpish
(iii) "You don't see hospital consultants going on strike and I don't believe that teachers and head teachers should. It's within their rights - it's a civil right - but I think it's wrong for the reputation of the profession." What the fuck have hospital consultatns got to do with it? You're "Education", dickhead.
(iv) Mr Gove had written to schools, to ask them to get parents to help keep schools open during the strike. Hang on, are they specialists like hospital consultants, or are they like parents - sole qualification, working sperm, working egg, working womb?

He's floundering around like a kidnapped Mafia stoolie in a bag who can hear the sea even from in the car boot
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Post  Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:11 pm

what do they fucking think?

pay freeze for two years, pensions conts up, real effect salary back 5-10 yrs in real terms
wait another 6 years for your pensions, it'll be less too
we're still fucking with your jobs and some of you will lose them

just because they like bending over and taking it doesn't mean everyone does

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Post  Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:18 pm

it's all a reality-check.
a re-alignment.

had it too good for too long maybe.

but then,
wtf do i know?

Embarassed

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Post  Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:24 pm

people believe the hype eric, they read the spin the gov issue about gold plated salaries and pensions but the gov doesn't mention most civil servants are on less than 400 a week and that the avg pension is 120 a week

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Post  Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:31 pm

wish i'd said nothing now.
i don't know what to say to that. Embarassed

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Post  NotBert Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:33 pm

Eric, even without going into the arguments, look at how the responses go.

They talk of reputation - abstract noun, means fuck all. Performance, for example, is not measured on reputation. It's measured on what you do, not the perception of some fucking mythical third party

They talk of negotiating and in the same breath, amending strike legislation - hang on, if you could do the first, you wouldn't have to mention the second. Fact is, you're not interested in (i) and are happy to arserape several million people in the country because you want to not only preserve their penury (yes, it's penury) but add to it.

They talk of "taxpayers" when covering civil servants without pointing out that if civil servants aren't within these "taxpayers", it's because their pay is so fucking low.

They talk of "parents" filling in at school which is (i) slavery and (ii) a huge statement that teachers are somehow fucking sterile and don't have kids of their own.

The fact is, everything they batter on about is everything but the issue in hand. If Michael Gove wants an enduring image or soundbite, he can meet me with a cameraman and film crew and I'll fucking chin him the first time he goes off topic. Abdul, what's the spread for that in seconds?
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Post  Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:36 pm

3-5 Bert, as I'll be holding the cunt down screaming at you that he said you're a twat, i'll even leave a bat handily within arm's reach

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Post  NotBert Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:38 pm

I'd be selling at 3. I'd expect to make overall about 5/2 equivalent.
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Post  NotBert Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:42 pm

http://www.w4mp.org/html/personnel/jobs/list_jobs_ref.asp

By God, some of them deserve a burning, a petrol piss and then to be put out with a spade
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Post  NotBert Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:48 pm

30250/Voluntary Internship, for Guy Opperman MP (Hexham)
Salary: None. Reasonable travel and food expenses will be covered.
Posted on 28 June 11, closes on 25 July 11

As if not being stuck on the top of a fucking hill shouting at the Pennines isn't enough...
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Post  Guest Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:57 pm

i thought they were going on too much about not striking, it looks like a biggy this time

usually, only a few go out for the long weekend but this time it would appear loads are going out and the impact will be severe

normally i only have 1 person out and he's the union rep but he seems to have signed up my whole team and there will be no it support in at all in the main site, in total about a dozen tops of 70-odd might be in

could be interesting, except for me trying to man the phones for two sites and telling people 'unlucky, nobody is here, try again tomorrow'

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Post  Guest Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:59 pm

One day off school because of Royal Wedding = Patriotic
One day off school because of Industrial action = Disruption

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Post  Guest Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:06 pm

yeah but we got paid to be off for the wedding, i have never seen so many saying they will strike and they will lose a days pay for doing it

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Post  NotBert Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:47 am

Your rep will be thinking "needs Abdul for the set".

You know you don't have to sign up to go on strike, Abdul, as you're entitled to under the recognised bargaining position held by the union even if you're not in it? Wish I'd known that earlier in my life, took a union rep I know to tell me that way, way too late for me.

You'll think about that now when everyone's out and for the price of an afternoon at Lingfield with average luck, you could be at Lingfield with average luck...
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Post  Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:49 am

Where was the anger from Unions when Labour abolished the 10p tax rate which mainly hit the low paid in the private sector who have no pensions at all?

And in other news

Living wage MP Lyn Brown criticised over unpaid job
By Victoria King BBC News, Politics reporter
Lyn Brown MP Lyn Brown is seeking "an intelligent and enthusiastic volunteer"

Campaigners say it is "unacceptable" that an MP who has campaigned for the living wage is recruiting an unpaid worker for her House of Commons office.

Lyn Brown, Labour MP for West Ham, is seeking a "voluntary Westminster worker" for duties including policy research and dealing with constituents.

Gus Baker, from Intern Aware, said she was guilty of "hypocrisy".

Ms Brown said she "would like to pay everyone" in her office, but "did not have the resources to do so".

The Labour Party said staffing decisions were a matter for individual MPs.

Ms Brown's official website states: "Since her election in 2005, Lyn has campaigned tirelessly for a living wage for all."

The living wage is an hourly salary rate - higher than the minimum wage - that campaigners say is necessary to allow a family to meet their basic needs.

In London - including Ms Brown's constituency - it is currently £8.30.

And finally a funny photo







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Post  NotBert Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:00 pm

I don't understand again, Kit. You're fastening on a national issue that affects everyone, not a targeted attack on individuals.

There were objections to it. There was also an assault on public sector pensions under Labour as well that led to strikes and a climb down. You seem to be equating unions with the Labour party. I don't see the correlation.
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Post  NotBert Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:06 am

NotBert wrote:It's amazing, Tone. This dickhead could have sat there and said fuck all. Now he's telling everyone Labour needs to get back to its roots but the number of major unions who next week are stating effectively "if you aren't with us, you're against us - there are no shades in this" are being told that this dickhead is against them.

Gun out, foot shot.

Have you noticed that in a rising tide of anti-government sentiment in the face of welfare and health attacks, he's followed this and said fuck all, gaining popularity by default
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Post  Guest Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:42 am

Yes.

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Post  NotBert Sat May 04, 2013 11:28 pm

I love the fact that we have more than one thread with this title
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Post  NotBert Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:32 pm

NotBert wrote:I love the fact that we have more than one thread with this title
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