Good morning fellow outcasts and lunatics

I'm off to make a cuppa and have a smoke outside.

Morning.

and Hi. (and to DD)

Good to see you here Glimmer

Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

Diego wrote:Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

I have the feeling in a couple of weeks we all wonder why we didnt have a forum without them sooner.

Kit wrote:

Diego wrote:Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

I have the feeling in a couple of weeks we all wonder why we didnt have a forum without them sooner.

If you remember, I set up an alternate forum about 4 or 5 months ago.
No cunt joined.

That's mainly because I'm no cunt.

Mad Tony wrote:

Kit wrote:

Diego wrote:Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

I have the feeling in a couple of weeks we all wonder why we didnt have a forum without them sooner.

If you remember, I set up an alternate forum about 4 or 5 months ago.
No cunt joined.

Thats true, I guess it was the perfect storm this time, lots pissed off at the same time.

Kit wrote:

Mad Tony wrote:

Kit wrote:

Diego wrote:Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

I have the feeling in a couple of weeks we all wonder why we didnt have a forum without them sooner.

If you remember, I set up an alternate forum about 4 or 5 months ago.
No cunt joined.

Thats true, I guess it was the perfect storm this time, lots pissed off at the same time.

And all down to the same handful of inadequate psychotics.
This has been the perfect solution.

Glimmer wrote:I'm off to make a cuppa and have a smoke outside.

Glimmer, monumental avatar. Although I've never seen anyone ask the question "where is the ref?".

Ali should be in a neutral corner or on the way there when that shot is taken.

Diego wrote:Morning gents.

How nice to have a forum free of those pricks.

I'll sleep better now you're here, DD.

Morning all.

Morning, going out now

Bert wrote:

Glimmer wrote:I'm off to make a cuppa and have a smoke outside.

Glimmer, monumental avatar. Although I've never seen anyone ask the question "where is the ref?".

Ali should be in a neutral corner or on the way there when that shot is taken.

I read up about that photo Bert. Fucked if I can remember the photographers name, but it was one of those ' one second time slots' and he got it.

The man whose head you can see between Alis legs was the recognised 'elite' boxing photographer of his day.

He was on the wrong side of the ring (obviously) and I can't remember his fucking name either.

Fight was out of control as well, though, TGM - Jersey Joe Walcott was reffing IIRC and he just wasn't up to the job. Liston's count ended up matching the original Long Count in Dempsey/Tunney and I'm not sure but I don't believe to this day there is an official end-time of the scrap because of it...

15 rounds , proper boxing

Not much did make sense that night Bert. Some books say that Listons body position on the floor, and apprently shielding his eyes from the lights, meant he was ready to get up, but didn't fancy it, and what he couldn't control, he didn't like.

The most surprising thing was the 'turnstile count', there weren't even 2,500 people there. I assume because of the size of the building.

In reality, the fight woud have probably filled Wembley, either with people who wanted to witness if Ali could do it again, or the other side of the coin, hoping he'd get beaten to a pulp by Liston.

I know which side I was on

I think the attendance was down to the shifting around it, licensing problems and politics - wasn't Ali injured and it was rescheduled, the licence expired and they had to put it somewhere? And no-one would touch it without massive security because in the interim six months, Malcolm X had been shot and two big black boxers, one outspoken are a pretty high profile target.

I know it was the equivalent of holding it in a church hall. I read something along those lines in one of Ferdie Pacheco's books.

I've read snippets of loads of boxing books, but the only one I've read right through is 'Muhammad Ali -His life and Times' by Thomas Hauser.

Got it in Waterstones in Worcester, the day Cheltenham was stormed off 2 years ago. It was either that or visit the Cathedral.

Such larks when you're bored.

I watched the rumble in the jungle on youtube the other day, proper boxing

The best Ali book I ever read was 'The Fight' by Norman Mailer.
So good I read it in day. I've also read it twice since.

The book was "The Fight Doctor". Pacheco was Ali's doctor. of course - has a bit of an overly personal tint to it but a bloody good read.