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betfair:outages and disruptions.potentially catastrophic.
thankfully,i wasn't affected by the saturday-crash.
the disruption before that,i was one of the winners,
and the one before that,a half-time inplay session allowed me to escape the worst.
i was lucky.
i am almost tempted to e-mail bf to ask for forum reinstatement.
there needs to be some discussion about this.
but i doubt that they're remotely interested.
only informed "in your face " discussion and debate has any chance of moving the betfair hierarchy to consider the views of the punters,or even acknowledge the existance of.
they're a plc now.
think of british gas.
me?
i think all bets should be cancelled in these situations,and i can't believe that there's an inplay trader who would disagree.
trouble is;what about the saturday punter who just wants to have a bet on an outcome?
once his bet is matched what does he care about breakdowns?
not his problem.
he has his bet,win or lose,and he's happy.
yes i'm talking through my pocket,
and no i don't want be hammered by an inplay situation that i have no control over.
bets void,
and i'd settle for a rule4 type situation.
deduction of 10p in the pound,
or whatever.
any comments?
i don't suppose that it concerns any of you.
but well,
that's my view anyway.
the disruption before that,i was one of the winners,
and the one before that,a half-time inplay session allowed me to escape the worst.
i was lucky.
i am almost tempted to e-mail bf to ask for forum reinstatement.
there needs to be some discussion about this.
but i doubt that they're remotely interested.
only informed "in your face " discussion and debate has any chance of moving the betfair hierarchy to consider the views of the punters,or even acknowledge the existance of.
they're a plc now.
think of british gas.
me?
i think all bets should be cancelled in these situations,and i can't believe that there's an inplay trader who would disagree.
trouble is;what about the saturday punter who just wants to have a bet on an outcome?
once his bet is matched what does he care about breakdowns?
not his problem.
he has his bet,win or lose,and he's happy.
yes i'm talking through my pocket,
and no i don't want be hammered by an inplay situation that i have no control over.
bets void,
and i'd settle for a rule4 type situation.
deduction of 10p in the pound,
or whatever.
any comments?
i don't suppose that it concerns any of you.
but well,
that's my view anyway.
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Re: betfair:outages and disruptions.potentially catastrophic.
An apology and explanation
On Saturday March 12, from 14:05 through 20:01, Betfair's website failed. We know how frustrating this is for our customers and offer our sincere apologies to all affected.
We are now looking at ways in which we can make up Saturday’s events to you.
We are working as hard as possible to ensure Betfair offers as reliable a site as possible. In a normal week we make at least 15 changes to the Betfair website but we have resolved not to release any new products or features for the next seven days. This should give maximum stability throughout a busy week that includes the Cheltenham Festival, cricket World Cup and Champions League football.
Below is an explanation of what went wrong and what we have done to fix the issue.
When the website failed on Saturday, our first step was to disable Betfair for all our customers on the web, API and mobile services. Once we identified the actual problem, we determined that we needed our website "available" but with betting disallowed. We recovered the site internally around 18:00 and re-enabled betting as of 20:00 once we were certain it was stable.
Here is what actually happened:
After performing certain types of website changes, an issue developed that caused our servers to temporarily slow down, processing just one thing at a time (single threading) instead of thousands of user requests in parallel. This "single threading" behaviour was introduced some time ago to protect against occasional broken pages caused by serving content while it is changing. In tech speak, our servers weren't thread-safe on certain types of content changes.
This has been an operational concern for several weeks as our traffic has reached record volumes week after week. While we had several operational protections in place to limit these types of changes during peak load, we missed an important one. Every 15 minutes, an automated process was publishing exactly the type of content that triggers the issue described above. Yesterday we hit a tipping point as the web servers reached a point where it was taking longer than 15 minutes to complete their update - essentially rendering the servers unusable.
Then in an attempt to quickly shed load, we triggered a process to disable some of the computationally intensive features on the site. Unfortunately, the way this was done triggered a complete recompile of every page on our site, for every user, in every locale. Under our normal Saturday usage, recovery took several hours.
After spotting the pattern, we've recognised this has been going on with varying impact since February 8, 2011. During periods of increased user traffic, our customers would experience this issue in the form of slow navigation or a "sticky" user experience. Yesterday was simply a tipping point, made worse by our recovery attempt.
We've fixed this problem now. We've disabled the original automated job and rebuilt it to update content safely. We've tripled the capacity of our web server farm to spread our load even more thinly. We've fixed our process for disabling features so that we won't make things worse. We've updated our operational processes and introduced a whole new raft of monitoring to spot this type of issue. We've also isolated the underlying web server issue so that we can change our content at will without triggering the switch to single-threading.
We believe these changes will bring the stability we all desire for Betfair and thank you for your continued custom.
Yours faithfully,
Niall Wass – Chief Marketing & Development Officer
Tony McAlister – Chief Technology Offic
On Saturday March 12, from 14:05 through 20:01, Betfair's website failed. We know how frustrating this is for our customers and offer our sincere apologies to all affected.
We are now looking at ways in which we can make up Saturday’s events to you.
We are working as hard as possible to ensure Betfair offers as reliable a site as possible. In a normal week we make at least 15 changes to the Betfair website but we have resolved not to release any new products or features for the next seven days. This should give maximum stability throughout a busy week that includes the Cheltenham Festival, cricket World Cup and Champions League football.
Below is an explanation of what went wrong and what we have done to fix the issue.
When the website failed on Saturday, our first step was to disable Betfair for all our customers on the web, API and mobile services. Once we identified the actual problem, we determined that we needed our website "available" but with betting disallowed. We recovered the site internally around 18:00 and re-enabled betting as of 20:00 once we were certain it was stable.
Here is what actually happened:
After performing certain types of website changes, an issue developed that caused our servers to temporarily slow down, processing just one thing at a time (single threading) instead of thousands of user requests in parallel. This "single threading" behaviour was introduced some time ago to protect against occasional broken pages caused by serving content while it is changing. In tech speak, our servers weren't thread-safe on certain types of content changes.
This has been an operational concern for several weeks as our traffic has reached record volumes week after week. While we had several operational protections in place to limit these types of changes during peak load, we missed an important one. Every 15 minutes, an automated process was publishing exactly the type of content that triggers the issue described above. Yesterday we hit a tipping point as the web servers reached a point where it was taking longer than 15 minutes to complete their update - essentially rendering the servers unusable.
Then in an attempt to quickly shed load, we triggered a process to disable some of the computationally intensive features on the site. Unfortunately, the way this was done triggered a complete recompile of every page on our site, for every user, in every locale. Under our normal Saturday usage, recovery took several hours.
After spotting the pattern, we've recognised this has been going on with varying impact since February 8, 2011. During periods of increased user traffic, our customers would experience this issue in the form of slow navigation or a "sticky" user experience. Yesterday was simply a tipping point, made worse by our recovery attempt.
We've fixed this problem now. We've disabled the original automated job and rebuilt it to update content safely. We've tripled the capacity of our web server farm to spread our load even more thinly. We've fixed our process for disabling features so that we won't make things worse. We've updated our operational processes and introduced a whole new raft of monitoring to spot this type of issue. We've also isolated the underlying web server issue so that we can change our content at will without triggering the switch to single-threading.
We believe these changes will bring the stability we all desire for Betfair and thank you for your continued custom.
Yours faithfully,
Niall Wass – Chief Marketing & Development Officer
Tony McAlister – Chief Technology Offic
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Re: betfair:outages and disruptions.potentially catastrophic.
yeah,
i saw that.
we shall see.
but once is a big deal boat.
there needs to be a cancellation rule imo.
i saw that.
we shall see.
but once is a big deal boat.
there needs to be a cancellation rule imo.
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