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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:34 am

Not sure if I actually fancy my chances today.

Thought Worthy
Starscope
Gatewood


could all give John Gosden a bumper day and

Global Village won't be overly displeased by the ground
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Post  bitofatwat Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:50 am

NotBert wrote:Not sure if I actually fancy my chances today.

Thought Worthy
Starscope
Gatewood


could all give John Gosden a bumper day and

Global Village won't be overly displeased by the ground

Cant find any serious flaws bert in any of them.

Came by this which re enforces the chance of Gatewood

4.25 - Wolferton Handicap - Listed - 1m2f - 4yo+
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9/9 had ran no later than May 14th
8/9 had last ran at a Grade 1 course
8/9 were 4yo's
6/9 had won a Class 2 , one had won at Listed grade , one had been 2nd in a Listed race and the other had won a Class 3.
6/9 had ran no more than 8 times .
Only 1 fav has won in 9 runnings.

I'm going to start with that age stat which when given a closer look is quite a significant pointer as the split between 4yo's and those 5yo+ runners is exactly 50/50 with 75 4yo's and 75 older runners having taken their chance but no less than 8 four year olds have been successful.

Remove RETRIEVE , BEACHFIRE , KINGS GAMBIT , CON ARTIST , OTTOMAN EMPIRE , QARAABA , HYPER , BLACK SPIRIT , SIRVINO and OPERA GAL.

FRENCH NAVY is making his seasonal debut .

With 6 winning after only at least 8 previous runs , it should hopefully pay to concentrate on those so remove JUNOOB who has ran 14 times and on top of that 4 of his 5 career wins have been on the AW.

MIJHAAR has been running in Listed and G2 company but previous winners seem to be one's who are taking a step up rather than going down a grade or 2.

Of the 3 left , DANDANA ran and won at lowly Redcar LTO but on top of that his 3 wins have all been on G/F ground , something it definately won't be tomorrow.
GATEWOOD will contest favouritism and certainly has done little wrong so far , winning his 2 races this season , both Cl2's over the 10f.
Hard to say if the G/S will suit as he has yet to encounter it , he has future entries in G2 and 3 events so i imagine he's quite highly thought off.
KIRTHILL is the other to be considered , a winner over 10f and , importantly , on G/S he does however appear to be the yards 2nd string as Fallon is on DANDANA but Ryan Moore has a 39% [9/23] strike-rate for Cumani over the past 5 season's so it may have been a difficult decision for Fallon to make as the booking of Moore is definately a positive for the stable.
hHe was disapointing LTO but was slowly into his stride and was noted as 'keeping on' when 9th of 14 but that was his seasonal debut so allowances can be made.

Summary - The future entries of GATEWOOD show the potential J Gosden's runner has and with that in mind i make him the main selection with a slight concern about the going but as he has yet to race on an easy surface he has to be given the benefit of the doubt .
The odds on offer for KIRTHILL ensures a 'saver'.

Stake 8pts @ 7/2 bog GATEWOOD
Stake 2pts @ 14/1 bog KIRTHILL

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Post  Guest Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:25 am

All horse players die broke

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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:32 am

Nobby Cheese wrote:All horse players die broke

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Bobby Sangster didn't do to badly out of it, Tone, and those Maktoums still have a penny or two... Razz

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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:00 pm

Still in Jackpot and Placepot

Only five more until I'm Viv Nicholson Razz
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:18 pm

I am no longer in the Jackpot and Placepot

Astrologer I'd have had beaten win and place, too. Neutral
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Post  bitofatwat Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:31 pm

NotBert wrote:I am no longer in the Jackpot and Placepot

Astrologer I'd have had beaten win and place, too. Neutral

How could you leave out Frankel's full brother Surprised
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:41 pm

Have you seen the full brother of Thought Worthy? I know which I'd take on soft over 12f
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:48 pm

Starscope appears to be the most capable maiden in the fucking country. Runner up today, runner up in the 1000 Guineas...
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Post  bitofatwat Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:59 pm

NotBert wrote:Have you seen the full brother of Thought Worthy? I know which I'd take on soft over 12f

I think Ascot is riding good to soft bert
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:21 pm

Pretty slow time for what John Parrott called "The Coronation Street Stakes"...
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:32 pm

NotBert wrote:Not sure if I actually fancy my chances today.

Thought Worthy
Starscope
Gatewood


could all give John Gosden a bumper day and

Global Village won't be overly displeased by the ground

Gosden a 95/1 treble but not those three Laughing

Bet stewing nicely, two to go, decent day for me in particular if Global Village wins for me again
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:07 pm

Fuck me, the two I didn't put up both win (aftertimer).

I don't like the Queen's Vase, always strikes me as a bit of a soft race like the Alex. I suppose this year the Queen gives the vase to herself and it's just renamed "The Vase"
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Post  Guest Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:42 pm

NotBert wrote:Fuck me, the two I didn't put up both win (aftertimer).


Suspect

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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:50 pm

3 wins, 5 places, fuck my luck. Have made a few but could easily have made quite a few more
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:50 pm

Nobby Cheese wrote:
NotBert wrote:Fuck me, the two I didn't put up both win (aftertimer).


Suspect

Both shortish favs, Tone
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Post  NotBert Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:05 pm

£250 Placepot, missed by a neck Neutral

£68 Quadpot which I had the four prerequisites. Neutral

Came out winning but could have done so much more
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Post  NotBert Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:05 am

Well this is on the wrong fucking forum...
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Post  NotBert Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:53 pm

Last day is arguably the best day for punters.  Wokingham 72 second cavalry charge aside (and you already know I have a live one IMO) the Queen Alex is for decent horses just not quite Gold Cup contenders, the Hardwicke is for marginally below top class 12f horses, the Golden Jubilee is a posh Wokingham but non-handicap, the 2yo race has more unlikelies than likelies and the middle distance handicap is usually a place for horses not quite up to black type winning their keep.  See you on the horses forum.
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Post  NotBert Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:35 pm

First winner at Ascot?

Berkshire.  Fuck me, even geography is giving tips
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Post  Guest Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:08 pm

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